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Re: PSL: JETHRO TULL - THICK AS A BRICK - NOW PLAYING!

Postby kath » 17 May 2013, 22:48

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see. i still have probs with the hare. i think i will get there eventually.


Have you tried waxing.


yeah, but it still won't bring my spectacles back. what am i doing wrong?

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Re: PSL: JETHRO TULL - THICK AS A BRICK - NOW PLAYING!

Postby lord_of_light88 » 17 May 2013, 22:49

That was a most enjoyable sync listen, thanks everyone! Round of applause.

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Re: PSL: JETHRO TULL - THICK AS A BRICK - NOW PLAYING!

Postby C » 17 May 2013, 22:50

Short Bald Bloke wrote:I've gone on to Live at Madison Square Garden...in for a penny


A great album

Great to have you all aboard.

Next week we will be enjoying a bit of Traffic:

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Re: PSL: JETHRO TULL - THICK AS A BRICK - NOW PLAYING!

Postby Neil Jung » 17 May 2013, 22:50

lord_of_light88 wrote:That was a most enjoyable sync listen, thanks everyone! Round of applause.

Happy evening.


Hugh wrote:
Then do all the Genesis albums to Wind And Wuthering


Yes. Those albums deserve cuddly loving care and a tasteful touch. SW can.


They've only been remastered twice or is it three times? :roll: :lol:
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Re: PSL: JETHRO TULL - THICK AS A BRICK - NOW PLAYING!

Postby Nancy » 17 May 2013, 22:51

C wrote:
Short Bald Bloke wrote:I've gone on to Live at Madison Square Garden...in for a penny


A great album

Great to have you all aboard.

Next week we will be enjoying a bit of Traffic:

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You know it makes sense

Yes, you know it makes sense



Schedule allowing, I'll be there with bells on. This one is a big favorite.






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Re: PSL: JETHRO TULL - THICK AS A BRICK - NOW PLAYING!

Postby Hugh » 17 May 2013, 22:53

Neil Jung wrote:
lord_of_light88 wrote:That was a most enjoyable sync listen, thanks everyone! Round of applause.

Happy evening.


Hugh wrote:
Then do all the Genesis albums to Wind And Wuthering


Yes. Those albums deserve cuddly loving care and a tasteful touch. SW can.


They've only been remastered twice or is it three times? :roll: :lol:


They still sound rubbish though. Way too compressed.

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Re: PSL: JETHRO TULL - THICK AS A BRICK - NOW PLAYING!

Postby C » 17 May 2013, 22:55

Nancy wrote:Image

Schedule allowing, I'll be there with bells on. This one is a big favorite



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Re: PSL: JETHRO TULL - WOUND UP!

Postby kath » 17 May 2013, 23:02

... and nowww we are goin off to the land of passion play then war child. mwhahaHA.

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Re: PSL: JETHRO TULL - WOUND UP!

Postby lord_of_light88 » 17 May 2013, 23:37

War Child. Yum.
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Re: PSL: JETHRO TULL - THICK AS A BRICK - NOW PLAYING!

Postby yomptepi » 18 May 2013, 09:17

Hugh wrote:
They still sound rubbish though. Way too compressed.



I think the problem is with the multitracking on the actual recording. It is impossible to untangle tpes with have had tracks " bumped " I doubt there will ever be decent sounding remasters of those first three albums.
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Re: PSL: JETHRO TULL - WOUND UP!

Postby Hugh » 18 May 2013, 09:56

I have hi-res vinyl transfers of NC, F, and TLLD that sound much better than the remasters. I think there is a decent sound there, it just hasn't made it to CD.

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Postby yomptepi » 18 May 2013, 14:27

I have never heard a clear sounding version of Foxtrot. It is a mess.
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Postby C » 18 May 2013, 18:50

yomptepi wrote:I have never heard a clear sounding version of Foxtrot. It is a mess.


and that is unfortunate as Foxtrot is their second best record

Yes, unfortunate as Foxtrot is their second best record






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Re: PSL: JETHRO TULL - WOUND UP!

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C wrote:
yomptepi wrote:I have never heard a clear sounding version of Foxtrot. It is a mess.


and that is unfortunate as Foxtrot is their second best record

Yes, unfortunate as Foxtrot is their second best record






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It is their fourth best record.

1.SEBTP
2. LLDOB
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Re: PSL: JETHRO TULL - WOUND UP!

Postby Huw » 18 May 2013, 20:57

I remember watching this in 1976 and recording the whole thing onto reel-to-reel tape by holding the microphone up to the TV speaker!



Obviously, the sound quality was shit, but happy days..... :lol:

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Re: PSL: JETHRO TULL - WOUND UP!

Postby lord_of_light88 » 19 May 2013, 17:07

I played Too Old To RnR last night before bed. I hadn't listened to it since I was a kid, when one of my brother's fiends brought it along. Funny how some stuff gets stashed away somewhere in your mind when you're not looking. It has been ages since I last heard those songs yet as they came on last night they revealed lots of familiar passages which were lovely to go through, like finding yourself in some place you'd forgotten you had already been, getting to enjoy it as both new and familiar at the same time.

Good album. Good old Jethro.
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Re: PSL: JETHRO TULL - WOUND UP!

Postby kath » 19 May 2013, 17:45

lord_of_light88 wrote:I played Too Old To RnR last night before bed. I hadn't listened to it since I was a kid, when one of my brother's fiends brought it along. Funny how some stuff gets stashed away somewhere in your mind when you're not looking. It has been ages since I last heard those songs yet as they came on last night they revealed lots of familiar passages which were lovely to go through, like finding yourself in some place you'd forgotten you had already been, getting to enjoy it as both new and familiar at the same time.

Good album. Good old Jethro.


grooooovy that you re-tried it. i swear. when i reheard it for this listen, it was much better than i'd remembered. that happened for a few of us. i think theo was right when he said that whatever made us not like it as much back in the day.. too minstrelly maybe, title track too overplayed, the value of the albums around it, whateverrrr... they don't really seem like significant reasons all these years down the line, when yer actually listenin to the thing. the songs themselves sound damn good. they *are* good.

this has happened to me many times on this board, a retake on an album that i heard a certain way back in the day, with some differing priorities, diff "ears", diff chemical content levels in the bloodstream, etc. it's my fave kinda conversion. mwhaha.

p.s. luvvvv the clip, huw. ::sigh::

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Re: PSL: JETHRO TULL - WOUND UP!

Postby yomptepi » 19 May 2013, 17:54

kath wrote:
lord_of_light88 wrote:I played Too Old To RnR last night before bed. I hadn't listened to it since I was a kid, when one of my brother's fiends brought it along. Funny how some stuff gets stashed away somewhere in your mind when you're not looking. It has been ages since I last heard those songs yet as they came on last night they revealed lots of familiar passages which were lovely to go through, like finding yourself in some place you'd forgotten you had already been, getting to enjoy it as both new and familiar at the same time.

Good album. Good old Jethro.


grooooovy that you re-tried it. i swear. when i reheard it for this listen, it was much better than i'd remembered. that happened for a few of us. i think theo was right when he said that whatever made us not like it as much back in the day.. too minstrelly maybe, title track too overplayed, the value of the albums around it, whateverrrr... they don't really seem like significant reasons all these years down the line, when yer actually listenin to the thing. the songs themselves sound damn good. they *are* good.

this has happened to me many times on this board, a retake on an album that i heard a certain way back in the day, with some differing priorities, diff "ears", diff chemical content levels in the bloodstream, etc. it's my fave kinda conversion. mwhaha.

p.s. luvvvv the clip, huw. ::sigh::



It was better than I remembered, but when played next to Thick as a Brick, it withered and died horribly. It isn't a bad record, despite the desperate story. It just isn't a great record, which is what I expect from Jethro Tull in the Early seventies. I believe it was their first lacklustre outing, so disappointment is entirely justified.
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Re: PSL: JETHRO TULL - WOUND UP!

Postby C » 19 May 2013, 18:20

yomptepi wrote:
1.SEBTP
2. LLDOB
3. NC
4. F


You have the correct four lad but in the wrong order

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Re: PSL: JETHRO TULL - WOUND UP!

Postby kath » 19 May 2013, 18:31

yomptepi wrote:It was better than I remembered, but when played next to Thick as a Brick, it withered and died horribly. It isn't a bad record, despite the desperate story. It just isn't a great record, which is what I expect from Jethro Tull in the Early seventies. I believe it was their first lacklustre outing, so disappointment is entirely justified.


well, when just about anything is played next to thick as a brick, it aint gonna hold up. mwhaha.

i think it holds up with those second tier tull albums (tiers according to kath, of course.) i wouldn't put it in the great tier, but it falls in with the good-to-very-good bunch.

we just listened to war child last night, and while c has already converted me more towards the luv-it camp, i'm still mixed on it. i am fanatical about the slower tracks. 'skating away' is one of my all time fave tull tracks. but some of the crunchier, tullily-busier ones just don't translate as well for me, compared to scads of other such tracks from other albums that hit my sweet spot, no problem. reap said when we were listening to it, "it's a very british album, isn't it?" he didn't mean that as a knock or as praise. his reaction is similar to mine. tull is ever brit, of course, but there's sumthin about the vibe, the instruments, the way those tracks move on war child that rep a diff kinda tull for me.

i can't explain it right, i know. can't put my finger on the problem or how i know exactly what reap means. one of my fave albums of all time is selling england by the pound, but to this day, i have major probs with epping effing forest. sometimes, there is a kinda cultural divide goin on that is hard to describe.. it aint politics, it aint history, it aint language, any of that. musical language, yes. it's the way strands of music through time have been used to express it traditionally, and how a band can take some of that and weave a new, weird thing that is signature that band, in whatever way, but still coming from an aesthetic with many tentacles that doesn't translate as well to a non-brit.

i am sure there are american equivalents of this principle. if i had more caffeine, i might could give parallels. i've tried before to convert people to the tom petty track, it's good to be king. regardless of what anybody thinks of petty as a general rule... there are many things goin on in that song that have a particular register with americans. in musical language. it's very difficult to translate all that to a brit. do ya know what i mean?

ahhh, i'm just gettin worse. mwhaha.

as a whole, i actually like too old more than war child. yes, i will get shot for saying it, but there ya have it.


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