PC21- Round 4 Match 2 *john aka josh 11- LMG 4*

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PC21- Round 4 Match 2 *john aka josh 11- LMG 4*

Postby never/ever » 13 Apr 2021, 12:45

A

High Tide - Saneonymous





B

Random Hold – Montgomery Clift

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Re: PC21- Round 4 Match 2

Postby C » 13 Apr 2021, 17:49

High Tide - a great track from their second eponymous album.

Featuring the powerhouse - Simon House on violin (later of Hawkwind)

They were heavy, They were great.

Love it!

My only doubt is lightweights like Jumper K will give it thirty seconds and then write something like 'bobbins'.

I am not that familiar with Random Hold so this track was new to me.

Interesting and pleasant stuff that held my attention for about 4 minutes then I started to get restless and had a desire to go away and play High Tide's debut Sea Shanties.

Excuse me, I must be off....!

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Re: PC21- Round 4 Match 2

Postby toomanyhatz » 13 Apr 2021, 18:40

Wow, what an unholy mess A is! I actually enjoyed some parts of it for how absurdly OTT they were, but I mostly just hear everybody soloing at once. It doesn't help that it's ever-so-slightly out of tune - for 14 minutes! I almost want to vote for it, because it's the proggest thing I've ever heard - everything the goons love and everything the haters hate - all there in it's...uh...glory. What's a dilettante part-timer to do?

I know - I'll vote for B :lol: . (It's OK - more post-punk than prog, complete with requisite shouty vocal, but it's a welcome respite from the manic-ness.)
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Re: PC21- Round 4 Match 2

Postby kath » 13 Apr 2021, 19:06

B was okay, but it didn't really stand out to me musically, anywhere along the way. (sorry.)

A was a freak fest, mwhhaha, with lovely slower sections and groovy instrumentation throughout. i'll take it. and have yet another flashback. maybe i'll end up talking to my sandwich.


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Re: PC21- Round 4 Match 2

Postby pcqgod » 13 Apr 2021, 19:14

I know there are some High Tide tracks out there that aren't 14 minutes long. I would have been content with a single edit of the last 4 minutes, personally.

I enjoyed B more than I thought I would based on the type of thing it is, but I'll still go with


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Re: PC21- Round 4 Match 2

Postby Neil Jung » 14 Apr 2021, 08:47

A Took forever to get going by which time I’d skipped ahead... a bit of a mess but they don’t make ‘em like that anymore
B I’m sure I saw them supporting Peter Gabriel at The Odeon. They didn’t go down well then or now.

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Re: PC21- Round 4 Match 2

Postby Good Night Dallas, Texas » 14 Apr 2021, 13:21

The start of A might put some off but once it get's going there is some fantastic interplay between the guitar riffing and violin and nice vocals.

B certainly has a more post punk magazine vibe.

Got to be A

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Re: PC21- Round 4 Match 2

Postby Jumper K » 14 Apr 2021, 16:00

In my world, A is an entire album. By 16 different bands, recorded together, at the same time. I admire its breadth but the music is terrible.
B however should be something I could get into. Its just nondescript though. I can't appreciate any of it, derivative, dull and totally uninvolving.
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Re: PC21- Round 4 Match 2

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Re: PC21- Round 4 Match 2

Postby Purgatory Brite » 15 Apr 2021, 11:35

B

If they were good enough for Gabriel then they're good enough for me. Though they should really should have cut the track down to about 4.30.

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Re: PC21- Round 4 Match 2

Postby trans-chigley express » 15 Apr 2021, 13:45

A was classic noodley old school second division Prog, plenty of virtuosity and soloing but little in the way of a tune, until the last 4 minutes when it suddenly becomes a song. The violin added a certain something.

B plodded along agreeably enough but didn't really hold my attention.

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Re: PC21- Round 4 Match 2

Postby Neige » 17 Apr 2021, 07:51

I'm a sucker for violins in rock, but I always found High Tide's eponymous second a disjointed, off-sounding mess and very difficult to listen to...
Their debut is another matter, that's a bona fide heavy psych classic. So something off Sea Shanties would have stood a chance against Montgomery Clift, produced by Peter Hammill, if I remember correctly. It's great and I haven't listened to it for ages.

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Re: PC21- Round 4 Match 2

Postby Lord Rother » 17 Apr 2021, 12:59

B grew on me as it went along but A is a bit more my thing.

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Re: PC21- Round 4 Match 2

Postby fange » 18 Apr 2021, 14:18

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Re: PC21- Round 4 Match 2

Postby LMG » 18 Apr 2021, 22:25

I cannot believe people say the Random Hold is too long after 14+ minutes of High Tide!

Maybe that's the problem - 20+ minutes of Random Hold AND HIgh Tide!

I like B better.

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Re: PC21- Round 4 Match 2

Postby John aka Josh » 18 Apr 2021, 23:15

Random Hold plodded along purposefully, but never reached the heights of the High Tide, who produced a flotsam of enticement.



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Re: PC21- Round 4 Match 2

Postby never/ever » 20 Apr 2021, 13:17

B started off great but meandered on after the vocal. No such issues for A...

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Re: PC21- Round 4 Match 2

Postby never/ever » 22 Apr 2021, 07:29

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