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Folk Cup 2019 Semi Final Match 1 *fange 6- the Fish 9*

Postby never/ever » 19 Nov 2019, 09:27

A

Jackson C. Frank - Don't Look Back





B

Joe Henry - Bloom

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Semi Final Match 1

Postby C » 19 Nov 2019, 11:15

I enjoyed A but I didn't find it anything too special.

I enjoyed B more and found it more engaging

I didn't get the video though....

So B has it

B has it

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Semi Final Match 1

Postby trans-chigley express » 19 Nov 2019, 13:53

Difficult to separate these, both seemed cut from the same cloth despite separated by many decades. I like both about the same so it's hard to choose but after a couple of listens to both I plump for A

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Semi Final Match 1

Postby toomanyhatz » 19 Nov 2019, 18:32

Joe Henry is by all accounts a lovely guy (I've somehow managed to never meet him to my knowledge despite running in similar circles for years now) and a good, at times great, producer (he did that wonderful Solomon Burke album a decade or so ago) but his own stuff has always left me a bit cold. All the right influences, all the right sounds, not much in the way of original vision - the typical story. John Wesley Harding for the new millennium.

A is one of those influences - on him, on Jansch, on Martin Carthy - on a lot of people we've seen here. Most of them bettered him, but he's still, as they say, a seminal figure. And at least it's not "Blues Run the Game."
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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Semi Final Match 1

Postby Spock! » 19 Nov 2019, 21:04

Found this quite a poser. Jackson C Frank is worthy, a civil rights protest song, a decent message. Earnest voice, strong chordal playing. Dylanesque but lacking the poetic touch, not as affecting as I tend to find Och's voice.



Joe Henry sounding like an out-take from John Wesley Harding though lacking Dylan's vocal idiosyncrasies.





Have played each song at least four times alternately, and have swung around to Joe Henry - the Frank became a little to strident, the mellowness of Henry's sound winning out.


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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Semi Final Match 1

Postby fange » 20 Nov 2019, 07:29

Both really enjoyable but A by a nose.


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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Semi Final Match 1

Postby Darkness_Fish » 20 Nov 2019, 16:31

There's a stridency and warmth to Jackson here, isn't there? It might be a protest song, but he sounds quite pleased that hes's singing about it, and I quite like that. His guitar-playing is a bit rent-a-strum though, there's not much delicacy or space to breathe in there, he's just hitting those strings over and over for all he's worth.

I'm hoping B is rubbish, just so I can say I'd prefer to listen to 4'33. I'm sorry, I hope that doesn't bring a barrage of abuse, I've nowhere to Shelter from the Storm. It's a decent enough take off of Dylan in his post-prime years, and as I'm feeling quite generous of spirit this afternoon, I'm willing to overlook the indebtedness, just because I slightly preferred it.

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Semi Final Match 1

Postby Jumper K » 21 Nov 2019, 06:33

A.

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Semi Final Match 1

Postby Nick Danger » 21 Nov 2019, 14:31

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Semi Final Match 1

Postby The Fish » 21 Nov 2019, 18:08

I like Jackson, but he seems like one of those artists who never quite matched that one song, obviousy Blues Run The Game in this instance. ALso an artist I was exopecting to appear, albeit the less obvious end of the obvious scale. JOe Henry though - intense, moody just the sort of thing I love.

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Semi Final Match 1

Postby never/ever » 22 Nov 2019, 09:51

A sounds like Don McLean on steroids. Very confident and in your face, it certainly leaves a mark.
Henry does that in a less anthemic way but I find it to be a bit more open and memorable in the end.

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Semi Final Match 1

Postby Hightea » 22 Nov 2019, 18:44

Like them both like Joe a little more

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Semi Final Match 1

Postby Purgatory Brite » 22 Nov 2019, 22:11

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Semi Final Match 1

Postby echolalia » 24 Nov 2019, 16:14

Jackson C. Frank keeps popping up on my youtube “feed”. He sounds fresh as a lettuce.

B’s OK. I hear Dylan’s Up to Me poking out at the edges a bit.

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Semi Final Match 1

Postby Flower » 24 Nov 2019, 23:00

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Semi Final Match 1

Postby Rayge » 25 Nov 2019, 22:59

Chip knew Jackson when he was in London in the 1960s, and as a result I know more about him and his sad story than most of his contemporaries, which kind of prejudices me towards him, although the song didn't engage me much in the one time I was prepared to listen to it
I know nothing about Mr Henry, but find the Dylanisms rather tiresome, and I didn't get to the end.

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Semi Final Match 1

Postby never/ever » 26 Nov 2019, 08:55

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