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You can't reduce 70s soul to simple 'dance music' to suggest it's not album based.
I wasn't trying to do that. I made the point that some previously dance music orientated artists like Gaye went down a more album orientated route.
But Soul music has always been primarily about making people dance, if it doesn't do that it is difficult to call it soul.
And for that reason it was never going to figure strongly on an album poll.
It's a lot more than that, of course.
I don't buy that, it isn't, in the main, much more than music to make people dance, nothing wrong with that
Something like Sam Dees The Show Must Go On is clearly not 'dance soul'. It's deep soul in fact and a fantastic album. The thing is, if you said 60s soul was single based I'd agree with you.
I can see where you are coming from and it is probably the reason why Soul was eclipsed by other genres in the 70s, people didn't want to invest time in listening to an album where Gaye wrote about his divorce, well white people gave it a shot but black people couldn't give a shit.
70s soul is an genre beloved of white hipsters and no one else.
It is a musical cul de sac, a dance music mutating into Country and Western, a bastard child
I really can see few redeeming features, why listen to What's Going On if you have Niney and Donna Summer.
It was rendered redundant
Earlier on it was the mid 80s and now it's the LATE 80s. Just like I claimed from the beginning. You're floundering Copey.
I thought about it and changed my mind
It is difficult to decide when Rap stop being a novelty and became an important musical genre.
I can remember, in the early days, only being able to buy compilation albums that were crammed with novelty hits.
Then all of a sudden - BANG - PE, Beasties. LL Cool J all releasing albums. the first rap album I bought was Schooly D but that was from an advert in the back of the NME
So I came to the conclusion mid 80s was a bit early
It broke 86-87
As an album based genre.
Earlier on you were suggesting that this poll was proof that 70s soul didn't produce many great albums etc
I don't think it did, I think it was a pretty moribund genre by then, a lot of what we laud these days was completely rejected by its target audience at the time - hence Northern Soul
And what was popular has more in common with the style of singer song writers or even C&W
It is a truly awful genre that died on its arse never to be revived. That was the end of Soul, the killed it.
Why some people revere its final bleatings escapes me.
and now you're going all subjective on my ass and again using this poll as proof somehow when it's just a bunch of opinions.
It is always going to be opinions.
You're on a roll!
Yep, I've hit my stride, unlike Marvin Gaye whose father had to put a stop to his groaning maunderings.
Rap, as you concede above, didn't become album based until the 'late 80s'
But it hardly existed as a proper musical genre before then any way, it was the realm of the BBC2 documentary and the novelty single. Double Dutch anyone?
and yet you still claim it has more great albums than 70s soul which you admit to not knowing much about. Good one, Cope!
I'd go one further.
There are no great 70s soul albums they're all shit and What's Going On is a pile of piss jelly.
It is truly one of the all time shit musical styles and anyone voting for it should really catch themselves on before people realise they are championing what they think looks good rather than what they think sounds good.
Oh Mercy Mercy me
Things ain't what they used to be
Nope they are a damn sight more boring.
And don't get me started of Al Green's execrable fucking 70s gospel.
Shit shit shit shit shit shit
I'd rather listen to a Hatfield and the North box set