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Prog Cup '21 Musings

Postby C » 30 Mar 2021, 10:34

Well folks, that was a really enjoyable first round and packed with corkers!

Very consistent robust choices throughout methinks.

Derivative clap-trap kept to the minimum. [Except for the Yes clone! :D ]

Well done Maarts and thanks

Roll on round 2....!




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Re: Prog Cup '21 Musings

Postby never/ever » 30 Mar 2021, 11:27

Popol Vuh making an appearance or two, three.... courtesy of one thread on YY?

Looks like there are plenty of people picking up on what somebody posts up there...
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Re: Prog Cup '21 Musings

Postby trans-chigley express » 31 Mar 2021, 14:29

C wrote:Well folks, that was a really enjoyable first round and packed with corkers!

Very consistent robust choices throughout methinks.


completely agree, it's been a very strong opening round and every track has had merit.

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Re: Prog Cup '21 Musings

Postby Neil Jung » 01 Apr 2021, 20:20

How long does each round last?
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Re: Prog Cup '21 Musings

Postby never/ever » 01 Apr 2021, 21:09

Neil Jung wrote:How long does each round last?


Officially a week but I am on holidays until next week.
I will put up two rounds and set the dates for them.
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Re: Prog Cup '21 Musings

Postby C » 03 Apr 2021, 19:21

Round 2 contained some excellent stuff

Two Renaissance tracks already which is interesting.

Very light on the derivative claptrap too which is a blessing

Jumper K (bless him) doesn't stick out like a sore thumb like he has done in other years.

The lad is obviously learning something from the prog goons.

Good lad Frank

Yes, good lad



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Re: Prog Cup '21 Musings

Postby LMG » 05 Apr 2021, 10:50

C wrote:Jumper K (bless him) doesn't stick out like a sore thumb like he has done in other years.

The lad is obviously learning something from the prog goons...


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Never seen the merit in progbilly, then, C? :D

I am enjoying how several contributors ignore the ancient prog adage 'Better to remain silent and let others suspect your knowledge of prog is patchy at best, than to speak and remove all doubt'.

If for example one feels a musician should be praised when he does not actually perform on the recording in question, or exist in confusion over the order Renaissance released their albums. And additionally suffer the handicap of having been frightened by Wikipedia as a small child, and as a result avoid it whenever possible.
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Re: Prog Cup '21 Musings

Postby C » 05 Apr 2021, 14:03

LMG wrote:
C wrote:Jumper K (bless him) doesn't stick out like a sore thumb like he has done in other years.

The lad is obviously learning something from the prog goons...


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Never seen the merit in progbilly, then, C? :D

I am enjoying how several contributors ignore the ancient prog adage 'Better to remain silent and let others suspect your knowledge of prog is patchy at best, than to speak and remove all doubt'.

If for example one feels a musician should be praised when he does not actually perform on the recording in question, or exist in confusion over the order Renaissance released their albums. And additionally suffer the handicap of having been frightened by Wikipedia as a small child, and as a result avoid it whenever possible.


:lol:




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Re: Prog Cup '21 Musings

Postby Jumper K » 06 Apr 2021, 15:47

C wrote:Round 2 contained some excellent stuff

Two Renaissance tracks already which is interesting.

Very light on the derivative claptrap too which is a blessing

Jumper K (bless him) doesn't stick out like a sore thumb like he has done in other years.

The lad is obviously learning something from the prog goons.

Good lad Frank

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Re: Prog Cup '21 Musings

Postby toomanyhatz » 06 Apr 2021, 20:36

Arti E Mestieri and (remarkably) that Rush track are the discoveries of the cup for me so far.

By-and-large there's been a surprisingly small amount of utter bollox. Hope that keeps up.
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Postby Purgatory Brite » 06 Apr 2021, 21:34

toomanyhatz wrote:utter bollox


I thought you'd be used to that sort of thing from your participation on Preludin.

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Re: Prog Cup '21 Musings

Postby toomanyhatz » 06 Apr 2021, 21:46

Purgatory Brite wrote:
toomanyhatz wrote:utter bollox


I thought you'd be used to that sort of thing from your participation on Preludin.


I'll tell you exactly what I told them - I don't give a flying fuck what you think.
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Re: Prog Cup '21 Musings

Postby C » 07 Apr 2021, 11:29

toomanyhatz wrote:Arti E Mestieri.


Yes, I really enjoyed that new discovery too.

I think I might have even voted for it.

As for utter bollox you haven’t listened to my remaining choices yet Dave....!




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Re: Prog Cup '21 Musings

Postby toomanyhatz » 07 Apr 2021, 17:50

C wrote: utter bollox




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There's bollox everywhere. Ain't life wonderful? :lol:

Seriously, though, I've been pleasantly surprised by the amount of a) Broad Church selections and b) short, compact songs. And even c) progtastic long suites that keep my attention for 10 minutes plus, for that matter.

Best prog cup yet?
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Re: Prog Cup '21 Musings

Postby fange » 08 Apr 2021, 02:57

After all these years and Cups, i still did one of the things it's best not to do; use songs you love, absolutely, but don't use the ones that mean the world to you. It's just better that way.
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Re: Prog Cup '21 Musings

Postby C » 08 Apr 2021, 15:17

toomanyhatz wrote:
C wrote: utter bollox




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There's bollox everywhere. Ain't life wonderful? :lol:

Seriously, though, I've been pleasantly surprised by the amount of a) Broad Church selections and b) short, compact songs. And even c) progtastic long suites that keep my attention for 10 minutes plus, for that matter.

Best prog cup yet?



I think it could be Dave

There's certainly less derivative claptrap and what there is half decent





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Postby C » 08 Apr 2021, 15:24

You know, there is so much in the draw....

What I would love to do (and I nobody else would be arsed/assed to participate with me), and that is to rerun the whole cup for a second time but with completely different pairings/match ups.

I wonder how different the result would be?

I for one know my round 3 is struggling - as soon as I saw the 'opponent' my face/heart and everything else fell. Under any other circumstances I would have voted for it!

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Re: Prog Cup '21 Musings

Postby LMG » 08 Apr 2021, 21:51

C wrote:You know, there is so much in the draw....

What I would love to do (and I nobody else would be arsed/assed to participate with me), and that is to rerun the whole cup for a second time but with completely different pairings/match ups.

I wonder how different the result would be?

I for one know my round 3 is struggling - as soon as I saw the 'opponent' my face/heart and everything else fell. Under any other circumstances I would have voted for it!

Views?




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Re: Prog Cup '21 Musings

Postby kath » 08 Apr 2021, 22:06

fange wrote:After all these years and Cups, i still did one of the things it's best not to do; use songs you love, absolutely, but don't use the ones that mean the world to you. It's just better that way.

i disagree. i mean, why not flaunt what you absolutely love *and* what means the world to you?

i say go for broke. if folk don't get it, fanjjjje, that's their prob, not yers.

i am telling you i have zero shot of winning this cup this year. and i don't care. i wear it, i flaunt it. yeeehaw.

you might just turn some folk on. a worthy cause, just by its own self.

this is my view. also, my cat spots is like a living heating blanket, and this will not stand. she must move.

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Re: Prog Cup '21 Musings

Postby toomanyhatz » 08 Apr 2021, 22:32

I looked back at a few previous cups and saw that the one that I did absolutely worst in was the damn FOLK cup.

That is my 'field of expertise,' if I have one. With the possible exception of Corp. Whore (and maybe Billy for the Wyrd stuff), there is no one more steeped in this stuff than me. And the response to my absolutely favorite stuff, the very reasons why I'm obsessed with modern interpretations of traditional song? I might as well have served up a Michael McDonald playlist. Absolutely everything I love, dismissed out of hand. My conclusion?

You're all a bunch of cloth-ears.

It's the only logical conclusion.
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