Folk Cup 2019 Round 5 Match 3 *PB 5- Jumper K 7*

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Folk Cup 2019 Round 5 Match 3 *PB 5- Jumper K 7*

Postby never/ever » 03 Nov 2019, 10:28

A

June Tabor - Shipbuilding





B

Billie Holiday - Strange Fruit

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 5 Match 3

Postby C » 03 Nov 2019, 12:17

Two great tracks which are both coincidentally covered by Robert Wyatt and appear on this:

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Two very poignant tracks

Billie undoubtedly had a great voice and sings this classic with great style and dignity.

But June is more to my taste in terms of enjoyment

So, A has it

A has it

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 5 Match 3

Postby Flower » 03 Nov 2019, 13:38

B
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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 5 Match 3

Postby toomanyhatz » 04 Nov 2019, 03:38

Neither qualify as folk songs, really, and this is the second Tabor track I find a bit overwrought. Wyatt definitely does the definitive version of this one.

B is a bit obvious, but not in a folkie way, so I'm torn. But, better song, better performance - yeah. So I guess that decides it.
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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 5 Match 3

Postby Purgatory Brite » 05 Nov 2019, 10:45

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An exceptional cover version of an exceptional song.

Despite its may qualities Strange Fruit does not belong in the Folk Cup.

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 5 Match 3

Postby trans-chigley express » 05 Nov 2019, 11:52

A is a nice version of a classic song. B is a classic, but a classic of the blues/jazz genre. I'm all for broad church but this is a stretch.

Anyway A

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 5 Match 3

Postby Jumper K » 05 Nov 2019, 21:07

What is Blues if not folk music?

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 5 Match 3

Postby trans-chigley express » 06 Nov 2019, 00:39

Jumper K wrote:What is Blues if not folk music?


There's truth in that but if I was to slip a folk song into a Jazz, Blues and Soul cup I'd be slaughtered :lol:

I guess for me there is a distinction between folk music as "music of the common folk" and folk music as a musical genre (fiddles, flutes and hey nonny nonny :P ) . Anyway it's open to individual interpretation how folk music is defined and vote accordingly.

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 5 Match 3

Postby Jumper K » 06 Nov 2019, 07:33

trans-chigley express wrote:
Jumper K wrote:What is Blues if not folk music?


There's truth in that but if I was to slip a folk song into a Jazz, Blues and Soul cup I'd be slaughtered :lol:

Undoubtedly. Its a problem with those broad sweeping genres though. I'm with Nigel in wanting to irk the purists.

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 5 Match 3

Postby trans-chigley express » 06 Nov 2019, 09:27

Jumper K wrote:
trans-chigley express wrote:
Jumper K wrote:What is Blues if not folk music?


There's truth in that but if I was to slip a folk song into a Jazz, Blues and Soul cup I'd be slaughtered :lol:

Undoubtedly. Its a problem with those broad sweeping genres though. I'm with Nigel in wanting to irk the purists.


It's probably one of Fange's picks, he's always trying to shoehorn jazz into every genre of cup :D

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 5 Match 3

Postby fange » 06 Nov 2019, 12:49

:lol:

Guilty as charged, guvnor. The shoehorn part anyway.

Here, i just like B more in the end.


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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 5 Match 3

Postby Darkness_Fish » 06 Nov 2019, 13:07

I wish I'd picked some black metal, and pointed vaguely at folk influence now. I'm by no means a folk purist, or even give a toss about genres, but y'know, I was hoping to hear some folk tracks in this cup.

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 5 Match 3

Postby fange » 06 Nov 2019, 13:14

Black Death Folk - a mix of metal and folk, or songs about the plague?
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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 5 Match 3

Postby Darkness_Fish » 06 Nov 2019, 13:20

fange wrote:Black Death Folk - a mix of metal and folk, or songs about the plague?

An African-American death-folk band, obviously!

Anyway, this kind of thing should be in your necro-inverted wheelhouse, fange:

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 5 Match 3

Postby Jumper K » 06 Nov 2019, 18:09

Pagan Viking folk metal is where it’s at.

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 5 Match 3

Postby fange » 06 Nov 2019, 23:59

Darkness_Fish wrote:
fange wrote:Black Death Folk - a mix of metal and folk, or songs about the plague?

An African-American death-folk band, obviously!

Anyway, this kind of thing should be in your necro-inverted wheelhouse, fange:



I like it! If i was an ad man, i'd use it for a Soothers cough drops ad.

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 5 Match 3

Postby Darkness_Fish » 07 Nov 2019, 07:54

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 5 Match 3

Postby Neige » 07 Nov 2019, 19:19

What were the odds of having these two Robert Wyatt-related and both hardly folky songs pitted against each other?

June Tabor's delivery here is much better than her Lili Marlene...

... and while this is Billie's signature tune, I must admit I never really warmed to her version.

Still, it's gotte be B for sheer cultural importance.
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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 5 Match 3

Postby never/ever » 08 Nov 2019, 10:17

B has a classic song but I'm more in tune with the chilled alto of June


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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 5 Match 3

Postby T. Berry Shuffle » 08 Nov 2019, 20:38

A: Interesting. It may take me a few listenings to warm to it.
B: I never really cared for it, but..

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