70s KnockOut Cup Match 8 *sloopjohnc advances*

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70s KnockOut Cup Match 8 *sloopjohnc advances*

Postby never/ever » 01 Dec 2018, 21:05

A

Ramones- You're Gonna Kill That Girl





B

Led Zeppelin - The Ocean

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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup Match 8

Postby Dayodead » 01 Dec 2018, 21:34

Screw Zep and their stupid outfits.....Vote A

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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup Match 8

Postby Darkness_Fish » 01 Dec 2018, 22:12

I never went as far down the Ramones discography as their second album, I bought the first and figured that was all the Ramones I need. I reckon I'm probably right with that. I mean, this is ok and all, but it's like the Big Star track of the previous round, I don't know what could drag me back to listen to it for a second time. It's kind of an ephemeral fluff, pleasant, but intrinsically uninvolving.

Within 5 seconds of B, I knew I was going to vote for A. This kinda bluesy bluster is kryptonite to me. I don't even know what to write about it, it's a rock song done by a rock band, in all its rocky rockiness. It says nothing to me.

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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup Match 8

Postby Jumper K » 02 Dec 2018, 09:08

Whoever chose this Brudders tune needs a serious shoeing. Its bubblegum, but the type that gets stuck on your Cons and is really annoying to shift.
A is hoary old toss but at least its got a frisson of excitement about it and you can see they are enjoying themselves. I don't think the Ramones ever enjoyed themselves.
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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup Match 8

Postby C » 02 Dec 2018, 13:32

Not a great Led Zep song but good enough

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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup Match 8

Postby Purgatory Brite » 02 Dec 2018, 13:36

B one of Zeppelin's best riffs plus pounding Bonham drums. Let's fucking rock!

The Ramones are just one trick ponies, and admittedly it's a good one most of the time. Not one of their better efforts though.

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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup Match 8

Postby harvey k-tel » 02 Dec 2018, 17:14

Having trouble getting excited about either of these, to be honest.

I'll go for B, I think, because it's more uplifting than a song about rape.

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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup Match 8

Postby The Modernist » 02 Dec 2018, 17:51

I'm struggling a bit here. I've become a Zep convert over the years, but that's them at their dullest. The Ramones track was also pretty by the rote stuff.

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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup Match 8

Postby sloopjohnc » 02 Dec 2018, 19:02

B

I had hopes for that Ramones song as I didn't remember it, but it sucked.

One of my favorite Zep songs, the break is great and unexpected in such a hard rocking song and it segues from the main riff to two different rhythms after that.
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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup Match 8

Postby naughty boy » 02 Dec 2018, 19:28

A is rotten - one of the weediest, silliest things to come off those pretty-good early albums

I'm not wild keen on that Led Zep performance but it's an easy win here

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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup Match 8

Postby echolalia » 02 Dec 2018, 23:23

Difficult... it’s hardly the most distinguished Ramones track. But despite the cunning riffage from the Zep, the Ramones’ guitars still sound better.
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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup Match 8

Postby Osgood » 03 Dec 2018, 08:25

An average Ramones tune that is nice to hear if you are into that thing, as I do. Too bad it was paired against Zep at the heigth of their powers, and that's hardly beatable.

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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup Match 8

Postby fange » 03 Dec 2018, 13:24

Again, two bands that i love at times, but two selections that are not personal faves. Ramones do enough here though.

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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup Match 8

Postby trans-chigley express » 03 Dec 2018, 13:35

The Ramones track is very limp and sounds like they tossed it off during a quick tea break, which, to be fair, they probably did.

B is about only the 5th or 6th best track from Houses of the Holy but still wins by a considerable landslide.

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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup Match 8

Postby Rayge » 03 Dec 2018, 16:16

a - A middling track from their second-best album (Road to Ruin wins it) by the greatest American band of the last 40-odd years. 7.5 / 10
B- ooooooh, laminates, bustier, stubsrillaroorama
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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup Match 8

Postby Diamond Dog » 03 Dec 2018, 20:30

*shakes head*.

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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup Match 8

Postby Penk! » 03 Dec 2018, 21:53

Like others, I have one Ramones album. If I want to hear the Ramones, which is not that often, I can play that album. They are fun for ten minutes but very overrated, aren't they?

Led Zep are always a bit hit-and-miss for me and I prefer their earlier work, which to me feels more folky and has more light and shade; I'm less keen on them in stadium-struttin' riff-rockin' crotch-thrustin' De-Niro-face-pullin' form. This one's got enough punch to its classic LZ sauropod-groove to win this tie, though.

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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup Match 8

Postby toomanyhatz » 03 Dec 2018, 23:33

I must confess I've always liked A a great deal. Not a pleasant subject matter, of course, but I do think there's something subversive in the way it takes sappy pop cliches (right down to the Beatlized title, which is a stroke of genius) and exposes the violence that lurks beneath them. Or at least that's how I take it.

B is great - well, the studio version is, anyway - this is nice but doesn't differ enough to warrant choosing - but picking them at all in a 70s cup is a lot like picking the Beatles in a 60s cup - I mean, unless you're going to pick "What's the New Maryjane" or something. Which this isn't the equivalent of.
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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup Match 8

Postby T. Willy Rye » 04 Dec 2018, 02:08

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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup Match 8

Postby Samoan » 04 Dec 2018, 18:24

B
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