BCB Cup 2012 - The Final! Thesiger wins! Coan unlucky!

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BCB Cup 2012 - The Final! Thesiger wins! Coan unlucky!

Postby the masked man » 26 Mar 2012, 19:29

List A

Clean Up Woman - Betty Wright link
I Don't Know Why I Love You - House of Love link
Chase the Devil - Max Romeo and the Upsetters link
Please Let Me Wonder - The Beach Boys link
Girl Don't Come - Sandie Shaw link
Animation - The Skids link
Nightporter - Japan link
Groovin with Mr Bloe - Mr Bloe link
Cattle and Cane - The Go-Betweens link
Promised Land - Chuck Berry link
Domino - The Cramps link
Call Me (Come Back Home) - Al Green link
Go Back - Crabby Appleton link
Louise - Paul Siebel link
Maps - Yeah, Yeah, Yeahs link
Hit and Miss - The John Barry Seven plus Four link
I Wanna Be Sedated - Ramones link
The Ballad of Cable Hogue - Calexico link
Desiree - The Left Banke link
Crash - The Primitives link
River of Salt - Ketty Lester link
All Of The Ants Left Paris - Tarwater - link
Lady Friend - The Byrds link
Freak Scene - Dinosaur Jr link
Nutbush City Limits - Ike and Tina Turner link
Until You Come Back To Me - Aretha Franklin link
Temple of Love - Sisters of Mercy (with Ofra Haza) link
My World Fell Down - Sagittarius link
Albuquerque - Neil Young link
25 o'clock - Dukes of Stratosphear link
I'm Going To Tear Your Playhouse Down - Ann Peebles link
Memo From Turner - Mick Jagger link
In Between Days - The Cure link
Girlie, Girlie - Sophia George link
Hurt - Johnny Cash link
Clear Spot - Captain Beefheart link
Baby It's You - Shirelles link
Julia Dream - Pink Floyd link
Dig for Fire - Pixies link
Ballad of El Goodo - Big Star link

List B

1. Monkey Man - Baby Huey and the Baby Sitters link
2. Love Rollercoaster - Ohio Players link
3. Rocks Off - The Rolling Stones link
4. We Got The Beat - The Go-Go's link
5. A Shot Of Rhythm And Blues - Arthur Alexander link
6. Fragile - Wire link
7. One Mint Julep - Ray Charles link
8. Ramblin' Gamblin' Man - The Bob Seger System link
9. So You Say You Lost Your Baby - Gene Clark with the Gosdin Brothers link
10. Ritual #1 - West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band link
11. Friday On My Mind - The Easybeats link
12. Silver - Echo and the Bunnymen link
13. Jam Up Jelly Tight - Tommy Roe link
14. Destroy The Heart - House Of Love link
15. Everybody Plays The Fool - The Main Ingredient link
16. Send Me A Postcard - Shocking Blue link
17. Godstar - Psychic TV link
18. Spoonful - Howlin' Wolf link
19. I'm Against The Eighties - Denim link
20. Mini Mini Mini - Jacques Dutronc link
21. The Guns of Navarone - The Skatalites link
22. Razzmatazz - Pulp link
23. Something's Gotten Hold Of My Heart - Gene Pitney link
24. Ha Ha Ha - Flipper link
25. Forget All About It - The Nazz link
26. Upside Down - Diana Ross link
27. Protex Blue - The Clash link
28. Penguin Cafe Single - Penguin Cafe Orchestra link
29. Darlin' - The Beach Boys link
30. Constantinople - The Residents link
31. Last Night - The Strokes link
32. Doomsday - The Purple Sun link
33. Read About Seymour - Swell Maps link
34. Ashes to Ashes - David Bowie link
35. Get Up, Get Into It, Get Involved - James Brown link
36. God's Children - The Kinks link
37. Hoots Mon! - Lord Rockingham's XI link
38. Wimp - The Zeros link
39. Nothing But A Heartache - The Flirtations link
40. Cool - Pylon link

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Re: BCB Cup 2012 - The Final!

Postby johnnydefault » 26 Mar 2012, 19:48

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Postby Jude » 26 Mar 2012, 19:50

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Postby purgatory brite » 26 Mar 2012, 19:53

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Postby the masked man » 26 Mar 2012, 19:57

I do feel that, while both lists contain knock-out punches (A has Japan's best song, a great Skids choice, 'Temple of fuckin' Love' with Ofra Haza, and that lovely Sophia George hit, while B has Pulp's best song, Diana Ross's magnificant collaboration with Chic, 'Ashes To Ashes' and the Swell Maps), B makes a few missteps (that Strokes song, in particular, sums up everything that's wrong with modern indie). Sometimes I feel A is playing a bit too safe with obvious BCB choices, but I'm not going to come down on it too harshly for that reason. This year, I'm looking for lists with pop thrills, and if A was a radio show, I wouldn't change channels.

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Postby Count Machuki » 26 Mar 2012, 19:57

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Postby Goat Boy » 26 Mar 2012, 20:11

Two very different lists. A is strong but feels calculated. In many ways it's a classic BCB cup list that harks back to an earlier era and I suspect it will probably win because of that but, despite its strengths, it sorta bores me. B is spottier but more personal, quirky and it digs a little deeper. AND it has The Residents so it's B for me.

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Postby WG Kaspar » 26 Mar 2012, 20:15

Very clearly A
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Postby Cosmic American Girl » 26 Mar 2012, 20:21

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Postby Samoan » 26 Mar 2012, 20:46

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Postby The Modernist » 26 Mar 2012, 20:49

As it's the final both lists deserve detailed consideration.
Scores will be 4 for a great and imaginative pick, 3 for a great pick, 2 for a good pick, 0 for average, minus 1 for a poor choice.
List A

Clean Up Woman - Betty Wright link
Great opener. Sparky stuff. 4
I Don't Know Why I Love You - House of Love link
A great single from a band that had a real knack for guitar driven songs that had a direct impact. 2
Chase the Devil - Max Romeo and the Upsetters link
Great track. Smokey and sinuous. 4
Please Let Me Wonder - The Beach Boys link
Early BB's are like catnip to me. 2
Girl Don't Come - Sandie Shaw link
It's easy to forgot about great sixties pop like this. A paradigm of greatly arranged sixties pop.3
Animation - The Skids link
The first misstep. Maybe it was added to get some post-punk into the initial ten, but there could have been more exciting choices. 0
Nightporter - Japan link
I've always loved this. A track of mysterious beauty. 3
Groovin with Mr Bloe - Mr Bloe link
Okay but a bit plodding as an instrumental. 0
Cattle and Cane - The Go-Betweens link
Great sweeping track of a battered romanticism, but in the context of the cup a safe selection. 2
Promised Land - Chuck Berry link
Another track that has possibly been added to give variety. A bit generic. 0
Domino - The Cramps link
Great band but they had more exciting tracks.2
Call Me (Come Back Home) - Al Green link
Good rather great. But I tend to feel that about Green generally. Often the backings don't really excite me, but it works well on its own level. 2
Go Back - Crabby Appleton link
Fantastic. I think I was the first person to pick this track, which is why it's getting a 3 rather than 4. 3
Louise - Paul Siebel link
Boring. -1
Maps - Yeah, Yeah, Yeahs link
A very contemporary take on post-punk with the idiosyncracies ironed out for a crowd pleasing production. All pose. Not for me. -1
Hit and Miss - The John Barry Seven plus Four link
You know I never knew this was by John Barry. Fun choice. 2
I Wanna Be Sedated - Ramones link
There is something very considered about the way the list consciously jumps around genres and periods it has to be said. But this is not the track to punish it for that as it's a faultless punk tune.3
The Ballad of Cable Hogue - Calexico link
The vocal lets it down, but a good sounding record. 2
Desiree - The Left Banke link
Wonderful, but symptomatic of the tendency of A to sometimes go for the obvious selection..which is fine in some ways -a great tune is a great tune- but I prefer the lists that dig a little deeper. 2
Crash - The Primitives link
Not terrible, but pretty underwhelming. 0
River of Salt - Ketty Lester link
Nice selection. Like it. 3
All Of The Ants Left Paris - Tarwater - link
One of the few selections which engages with contemporary beats on both lists. Shame it's not much good.-1
Lady Friend - The Byrds link
You can't go wrong with some Cros. A band at the height of their powers. 4
Freak Scene - Dinosaur Jr link
A track which is guaranteed to win votes, but not from me. 0
Nutbush City Limits - Ike and Tina Turner link
Good, but I think a more imaginative and exciting early seventies funk selection could have been made. 2
Until You Come Back To Me - Aretha Franklin link
Love it.4
Temple of Love - Sisters of Mercy (with Ofra Haza) link
The original version may have squeezed a two, but not this preposterous remake. -1
My World Fell Down - Sagittarius link
Again not the most original selection, but it is great.3
Albuquerque - Neil Young link
Rather dull.0
25 o'clock - Dukes of Stratosphear link
Contrived psychedelia. Yes they get the details right, but I question the point. 0
I'm Going To Tear Your Playhouse Down - Ann Peebles link
One of the great early seventies soul singles.3
Memo From Turner - Mick Jagger link
Safe selection, but unimpeachable as track.3
In Between Days - The Cure link
One of The Cure's better moments.2
Girlie, Girlie - Sophia George link
Never liked this song to be honest, though it is good to see a more poppy take on dancehall selected as it's not the kind of thing, Profile apart, many people pick. But the song is not for me. 0
Hurt - Johnny Cash link
Never been that keen. The concept is too overbearing and unsubtle. It's probably time to punish A for its, at times, slightly craven crowd-pleasing tendencies too.-1
Clear Spot - Captain Beefheart link
Interesting rather than lovable. It's uncompromising and original as you would expect from the Captain, but it's a bit hard work and doesn't really excite me. 0
Baby It's You - Shirelles link
One of the best girl group tracks.3
Julia Dream - Pink Floyd link
Floyd/Barrett at their most pastoral and dreamy. Utterly wonderful.4
Dig for Fire - Pixies link
Picking The Pixies at this stage does seem to be playing to the gallery, but I understand the impulse to do that when you're in the final. Not dislikable, but rather run of the mill.0
Ballad of El Goodo - Big Star link
Pretty song. Lacks a bit of punch perhaps, but good.2

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Re: BCB Cup 2012 - The Final!

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Postby Magilla » 26 Mar 2012, 21:10

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Postby sloopjohnc » 26 Mar 2012, 21:12

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Which was tough to pick, considering A has one of my all-time favorite Max Romeo songs.
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Postby Jeff K » 26 Mar 2012, 21:24

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Re: BCB Cup 2012 - The Final!

Postby Insouciant Western People » 26 Mar 2012, 21:37

B blots its copybook too many times with substandard rubbish (The Strokes??? FFS man), and A has much the better House Of Love song.


Plus A's two final songs seal the deal. Wonderful stuff from The Pixies and Big Star

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Postby the masked man » 26 Mar 2012, 21:41

Interesting that the House of Love are in both lists. They're one of those second division bands who nonetheless produced under-appreciated gems; I like both choices!

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Re: BCB Cup 2012 - The Final!

Postby oliltownofkathlehem » 26 Mar 2012, 21:44

both fantastic lists, really. the winning margin is a slight one.

A

(p.s. thanks for adding julia dream, A. i worship that track.)