Do local soccer teams in the UK have their own radio/TV announcers?

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Do local soccer teams in the UK have their own radio/TV announcers?

Postby sloopjohnc » 06 Feb 2018, 15:52

I was thinking about this this morning. Here, every major sport has a radio and TV team for baseball, football and basketball.

The San Francisco Giants have four announcers/color analysts that split between radio and TV

The 49ers have a radio team of two, and if they're on TV, the game is handled by national announcers.

For basketball, the Warriors have a two man team for TV and one radio guy.

If games are nationally televised, it's network play-by-play and color analysts and sometimes you can watch the local TV broadcast if you'd like.

I won't even go into the Oakland Raiders and A's or San Jose Sharks.

How does it work in the UK for local teams on radio or TV?
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Postby Dr Markus » 06 Feb 2018, 16:00

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Postby sloopjohnc » 06 Feb 2018, 16:10

The Great Defector wrote:Yes


Obviously, you never applied for a job doing either if your vocal expression is as terse as written.

Do you enjoy them?
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Postby Dr Markus » 06 Feb 2018, 16:13

sloopjohnc wrote:
The Great Defector wrote:Yes


Obviously, you never applied for a job doing either if your vocal expression is as terse as written.

Do you enjoy them?


LOL, not really. Some teams have their own tv station with their own pundits, some with local radio stations that will do a running commentary on the match. So for Liverpool example, you can subscribe to their tv station for 7 or 9 bucks a month. They will show the match maybe an hour or two after it finishes because they don't have rights to their own team. So they will have a camera pointing at the pundits, actually at the game but not showing any actual football.
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Re: Do local soccer teams in the UK have their own radio/TV announcers?

Postby JQW » 06 Feb 2018, 22:13

Usually the answer is no. TV rights for football matches are shared between several different broadcasters. A few of the larger teams have their own TV stations, but they lack rights to show live any of their first team games. They may have dedicated commentary teams for the matches they do have rights to, but these cover reserve, youth team, pre-season friendly games, and 'testimonial games' - the latter being all-star charity games awarded to players who have spent some time with their current club.

In the case of radio, rights for larger matches are awarded to national broadcasters - the BBC, TalkSport and possibly Absolute Radio. There's also local radio rights which can be held either by a BBC local station or a local commercial one, and in many cases they send the same team to every match. I can think of one club whose local match rights are, or were, owned by a commercial radio station also owned by the club, so in that case they did have their own dedicated commentary team, but that's somewhat rare.

Larger clubs may also offer match commentary at the game for visually impaired supporters, and many hospital radio stations also take commentary teams to local games. These will be dedicated teams, but usually staffed by volunteers.
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Postby sloopjohnc » 07 Feb 2018, 16:53

So, unless it's nationally televised or on radio, you can't hear or see the local team you follow on radio or TV?

I know the UK is much smaller than the US, but here there is always some broadcast of regional pro, college and even minor league sports you can get or stream.
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Postby The Modernist » 07 Feb 2018, 20:16

sloopjohnc wrote:So, unless it's nationally televised or on radio, you can't hear or see the local team you follow on radio or TV?

I know the UK is much smaller than the US, but here there is always some broadcast of regional pro, college and even minor league sports you can get or stream.


There's unlikely to be cameras at grounds for the smaller teams. There's just not the commercial demand. In terms of the premiership, licences to show a certain number of games are sold to media companies across the world so they don't all show the same games. There has been talk of clubs owning the rights to show their own games in the future, but the money they're getting from tv companies is so massively lucrative ( the last tv deal with the premiership was for over £ five billion) that it's difficult to see it happening anytime soon.

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Postby Penk! » 07 Feb 2018, 20:55

sloop, some more accurate info:

The top Premier League teams are difficult to see unless you pay for a subscription to whoever owns the rights or use dodgy streams.

In the lower professional levels (the Championship, League One and League Two), there are cameras at all grounds but games are not shown live - unless you live outside the UK and are willing to pay for the new streaming service iFollow, which most Football League (the three professional levels outside the Premier League) clubs have signed up to. Inside the UK this service only provides radio commentary, but the commentary teams are employed by the clubs themselves (and are as such very partisan): the clubs have had this in-house radio commentary for some time.

All clubs provide free highlights which you can see on Youtube the day after, and many have their own subscription services providing radio commentary from their own commentary teams, extended highlights with commentary, etc etc.

Here's an example of the in-house commentary: https://www.facebook.com/OfficialOAFC/videos/1815348278497900/

And the full highlights available on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOwjedGmf_g

Look at the state of that pitch!
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Postby The Modernist » 07 Feb 2018, 21:13

K wrote:There's a single camera at Altrincham. They're in the Evo Stik Premiere so I have no idea how to explain that to our American friends. It's shown on Facebook, like Penk describes, and has a local commentator, but for a live feed I need to follow the minute by minute online update.
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Postby The Modernist » 07 Feb 2018, 21:35

Thank goodness for that. I was getting worried. :)

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Postby sloopjohnc » 07 Feb 2018, 22:28

PENK wrote:sloop, some more accurate info:

And the full highlights available on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOwjedGmf_g

Look at the state of that pitch!


:lol:

I've seen high school football and baseball fields in better condition.

Here, the nature of sports viewing is changing. Folks are watching less and less in real time and DVRing sports to watch later or simply streaming it.

TV ratings are down for the National Football League and networks are trying to get a handle on it, because it affects ad revenues.

Is this happening in the UK too?
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Postby sloopjohnc » 07 Feb 2018, 22:31

K wrote:1: Alty defend Golf Road; minute's silence for Munich anniversary. Ashton kick off five minutes late. Keeper spils Peers cross fopr a corner; Ashton just manage to clear
2: 90 secs and Harrop advances and fires home from 25 yards unchallenged. 1-0
3:
4: Hampson clears; Hancock foul
5: Mooney cross wins corner off Harrison
6: Hancock run wins throw
7: Harrison miscontrol allows Lees to win corner
8: Ashton throw; Harrison clears
9: Tomsett appeals for f/k in vain
10: Great Poole ball to Hancock then Harrop mishits 20 yarder wide


I use apps like that that list the play-by-play when and where the streaming sucks. Baseball mostly, which it works best for because the action isn't as constant and 90% of the action is between pitcher and hitter.

For sports like soccer and basketball, it seems text play-by-play would be frustrating. Leaves out lots of nuances in perpetual action sports.
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Re: Do local soccer teams in the UK have their own radio/TV announcers?

Postby Rayge » 08 Feb 2018, 14:38

sloopjohnc wrote:TV ratings are down for the National Football League and networks are trying to get a handle on it, because it affects ad revenues. Is this happening in the UK too?

Don't know about the ratings, or any other sport but real football, but of the three broadcasters that show live competitive matches regularly, one, the BBC, does not show advertising, and the others, BT and Sky are subscription channels, both of which have based their marketing strategies around football.
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