Rangers into administration?

[Goat Boy]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-17015966

Ouch.

[The G Experience!]

I guess up there you've all been expecting this to happen, but it's still a shock for me to see this happen to such a huge name.
What do think their immediate future is now dougie?

[funky_nomad]

We've been talking about this for aaaaaages over in the SPL thread...

[Dr Markus]

Would the scotish goverment step in or anything?

[Bill Thrills]

special forum?

[The G Experience!]

We've been talking about this for aaaaaages over in the SPL thread...

I don't like all those thread titles with capitalised letters, they remind me too much of American sports!

I shall take a wonder over there and see what's been said.

[Goat Boy]

A ten point penalty and the shit hitting the fan is the immediate future. We may see Rangers version 1 die and a Rangers v2 created. I suspect that some people in Scottish football would try their damndest to let v2 start in the top tier instead of the bottom mind. I honestly can't see a bail out coming from anywhere as the Scottish game just isn't an attractive option.

An interesting article here....

http://www.scotzine.com/2012/02/the-psychological-landscape-of-scottish-football-has-changed/

I have mixed feelings over all this but if the above scenario was to actually happen it would be a wonderful thing.

[Goat Boy]

We've been talking about this for aaaaaages over in the SPL thread...

It deserves a thread of its own so we can gloat over analyse the situation

[funky_nomad]

Would the scotish goverment step in or anything?

Good god, no.

Aside from the obvious argument that politics and sport shouldn't mix if at all avoidable, why on earth would the SNP wish to alienate a huge chunk of the voting population when they've got a pretty big Referendum in the offing???

[The G Experience!]

I think any new version of Rangers should be granted immediate access into the top league. Their history and importance to Scottish football has to count for something.

[funky_nomad]

We've been talking about this for aaaaaages over in the SPL thread...

It deserves a thread of its own so we can gloat over analyse the situation

If you insist...

They will live on in some manner but I don't think that they in a new form should get a free pass straight intpo the SPL.

Of course they will, but (and I've said this before) given the voting rights required for the SPL to accept them into the league, the "diddy" teams should be looking at making changes while Rangers are weak - first up, the 11 vote requirement for change...

[Dr Markus]

Would the scotish goverment step in or anything?

Good god, no.

Aside from the obvious argument that politics and sport shouldn't mix if at all avoidable, why on earth would the SNP wish to alienate a huge chunk of the voting population when they've got a pretty big Referendum in the offing???

Seems to work in Spain, they goverment/royals keep bailing out madrid out don't they?

[Jeemo]

Would the scotish goverment step in or anything?

No chance of that happening. It would alienate too much of the electorate.

[Goat Boy]

I think any new version of Rangers should be granted immediate access into the top league. Their history and importance to Scottish football has to count for something.

You could also put forward the argument they have held the game back up here.

I think a Rangers free league would be better for Scottish football in the long run.

[funky_nomad]

I think any new version of Rangers should be granted immediate access into the top league. Their history and importance to Scottish football has to count for something.

Scottish football already has precedence in a similar situation - when Airdrieonians went into Administration, they set up a "new" club (Airdrie Utd) who then effectively bought Clydebank's place in a higher league when The Bankies went totally out of business.

That whole affair was exceedingly ugly, and confirmed Airdrie as pretty much the most-hated non-OF club in Scotland.

All in all, good practice for what's ahead...

[funky_nomad]

Would the scotish goverment step in or anything?

Good god, no.

Aside from the obvious argument that politics and sport shouldn't mix if at all avoidable, why on earth would the SNP wish to alienate a huge chunk of the voting population when they've got a pretty big Referendum in the offing???

Seems to work in Spain, they goverment/royals keep bailing out madrid out don't they?

But that's effectively the opposite scenario - if the SNP were in Spain, they'd be Barcelona fans trying to create an independent Catalonia...

[The G Experience!]

I think any new version of Rangers should be granted immediate access into the top league. Their history and importance to Scottish football has to count for something.

You could also put forward the argument they have held the game back up here.

I think a Rangers free league would be better for Scottish football in the long run.

I've just read the article you posted which made that argument very well.
What I don't understand is why it is assumed that other clubs will fill the void, after all their support is unlikely to increase, at least not for many years. Is it because they will now get a cut of Rangers' tv money? I wasn't clear on the argument.

[funky_nomad]

I think any new version of Rangers should be granted immediate access into the top league. Their history and importance to Scottish football has to count for something.

You could also put forward the argument they have held the game back up here.

I think a Rangers free league would be better for Scottish football in the long run.

Whilst there's a decent argument to be made for Scottish football benefiting by being Old Firm-free, I can't see the logic in losing just one of them being beneficial - one big team dominating every year, eating up all the advertising revenue (which in itself will diminish pretty quickly without the "lure" of at least 4 Old Firm matches per season).

Naaaah, doesn't stack up for me.

[Goat Boy]

I think any new version of Rangers should be granted immediate access into the top league. Their history and importance to Scottish football has to count for something.

You could also put forward the argument they have held the game back up here.

I think a Rangers free league would be better for Scottish football in the long run.

I've just read the article you posted which made that argument very well.
What I don't understand is why it is assumed that other clubs will fill the void, after all their support is unlikely to increase, at least not for many years. Is it because they will now get a cut of Rangers' tv money? I wasn't clear on the argument.

I think there would be a knock on effect up and down the country. With no Rangers to support or a v2 in the bottom league a percentage of the glory hunter fans (which is a lot of people), who won't turn to Celtic, may watch Motherwell, Hearts etc. The gap between the top two football wise isn't THAT great these days and with Rangers not snapping up local youngsters at youth and first team level or decent foreign players from other clubs the rest will close the gap on Celtic resulting in a more competitive league and an increased chance at doing well in the cups. With Rangers departing TV and advertising revenue will go down so the financial gap, whilst still there, will be far more manageable for non old firm teams plus attendances will rise. Sure, Celtic will dominate in the short term but it'll change.

[Bill Thrills]

Maybe the new rangers should apply to join the football league (or blue square or whatever it is these days). In 6 years time they would be playing with the big boys.