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To win a North London derby is great, to win when you were the better side is very great, to win when you had to overcome all kinds of adversity lifts it into that rarified zone of very special performances. Amazing performance - we have our Arsenal back.
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The Modernist wrote:To win a North London derby is great, to win when you were the better side is very great, to win when you had to overcome all kinds of adversity lifts it into that rarified zone of very special performances. Amazing performance - we have our Arsenal back.
Yeah - they really wanted it and were prepared to battle for it and not give up. Great game and a deserved victory.
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You'd think a Spurs fan might be keeping their head down at present, wouldn't you?
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If Arsenal appointed Mourinho I would seriously think about abandoning them (fruitlessly, as they are engraved on my soul).
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Very worrying times.
I don't think it's alarmist to consider relegation as a possibility. We are certainly in relegation form. Moreover, if you look at some of the characteristics relegation teams have, namely a porous, non-functioning defence and a disharmonious, divided dressing room, then I think we tick both those boxes.
There are couple of quick fixes we can introduce: play Auba as c-f, play Chambers and Holding as the c-h partnership, find a place for Pepe either as one of the three forwards or a winger in a 4-4-2. This will improve us, but we still have huge underlying problems and are in need of a massive rebuild. This, for me, impacts hugely on the type of manager we go for next. We've been talking about a manager who can get us back in the top four and win some trophies. We are way off that now though, what we actually need is a manager who can rebuild the team through building team spirit, organisation and some good old fashioned clever coaching. This is now a long term job. I would be looking at a Howe/Potter/Wilder type manager. I doubt Raul sees that though. I don't think the Arsenal hierachy understand the position we are in.
I don't think it's alarmist to consider relegation as a possibility. We are certainly in relegation form. Moreover, if you look at some of the characteristics relegation teams have, namely a porous, non-functioning defence and a disharmonious, divided dressing room, then I think we tick both those boxes.
There are couple of quick fixes we can introduce: play Auba as c-f, play Chambers and Holding as the c-h partnership, find a place for Pepe either as one of the three forwards or a winger in a 4-4-2. This will improve us, but we still have huge underlying problems and are in need of a massive rebuild. This, for me, impacts hugely on the type of manager we go for next. We've been talking about a manager who can get us back in the top four and win some trophies. We are way off that now though, what we actually need is a manager who can rebuild the team through building team spirit, organisation and some good old fashioned clever coaching. This is now a long term job. I would be looking at a Howe/Potter/Wilder type manager. I doubt Raul sees that though. I don't think the Arsenal hierachy understand the position we are in.
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Allardyce would improve them.
What a terrible thing to say. But true.
Benitez seems good odds at 16/1 though.
What a terrible thing to say. But true.
Benitez seems good odds at 16/1 though.
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Lord Rother wrote:Allardyce would improve them.
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The guy who failed and was sacked at his last three jobs? Not even the Arsenal board are that stupid.
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Maybe not but my point was that he would improve them.
“Failed and sacked”.... you sure about that?
“Failed and sacked”.... you sure about that?
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Well yet another trophy for Arsenal. Some good signs in recent weeks.
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I think they've finally got themselves a forward thinking manager who isn't scared to stick to his convictions and discard the players who aren't 'team' players.
If they keep Aubameyang (signs are they will) they could just be challenging for top four seriously next year. Willian looks a find addition and I'm sure they'll strengthen in other areas too.
If I was an Arsenal fan, I'd be optimistic.
If they keep Aubameyang (signs are they will) they could just be challenging for top four seriously next year. Willian looks a find addition and I'm sure they'll strengthen in other areas too.
If I was an Arsenal fan, I'd be optimistic.
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Diamond Dog wrote:I think they've finally got themselves a forward thinking manager who isn't scared to stick to his convictions and discard the players who aren't 'team' players.
If they keep Aubameyang (signs are they will) they could just be challenging for top four seriously next year. Willian looks a find addition and I'm sure they'll strengthen in other areas too.
If I was an Arsenal fan, I'd be optimistic.
Willian has put pen to paper
Top four still feels like quite a stretch from 10th, or whatever it was. Plus there's the Europa League to contend with.
Doing better than one of Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea feels like a big ask - but who knows?
Defence is the big issue and a number 10 type (and that all assumes Aubameryang sticks around)
Either way, Arteta looks the real deal
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Liverpool & Man City are clear of the rest of the pack.
I look at Man Utd, Chelsea, Spurs, Leicester, Wolves, Arsenal and I think there's very little between them. An inspired signing or a manager who really coaches the squad better could make all the difference. In that respect - Arteta & Nuno have shown at least as much of the latter as the rest.
I look at Man Utd, Chelsea, Spurs, Leicester, Wolves, Arsenal and I think there's very little between them. An inspired signing or a manager who really coaches the squad better could make all the difference. In that respect - Arteta & Nuno have shown at least as much of the latter as the rest.
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Blimey!
People mention Arsenal losing 10-2 to Bayern, but at least it was over two legs....
People mention Arsenal losing 10-2 to Bayern, but at least it was over two legs....
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Yet another trophy for Arsenal, albeit just for fun.
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A good start to the season.....
I kept thinking "swim as far as you can, swim as far as you can".
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Very impressive, their title to lose after Man City’s loss yesterday!
I think City will still win it by a street, but you never know. Arsenal have developed a new strength. Leeds were excellent in the 2nd half yesterday and in any of the last x years Arsenal would have crumbled under that pressure.
Not now though. Everything has been upgraded. Skill, squad, shape, mental strength, you name it.
I think City will still win it by a street, but you never know. Arsenal have developed a new strength. Leeds were excellent in the 2nd half yesterday and in any of the last x years Arsenal would have crumbled under that pressure.
Not now though. Everything has been upgraded. Skill, squad, shape, mental strength, you name it.
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Genuinely tremendous goal from Saka for England last night. Top quality in every element.
I kept thinking "swim as far as you can, swim as far as you can".
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Limpin' Jez McKenzie wrote:Genuinely tremendous goal from Saka for England last night. Top quality in every element.
I love the way he goes about his job - although he likes a bit of a scream and a roll he is basically quiet, unassuming, intelligent and he just gets better and better.